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The minecraft wiki has moved off of fandom, fandom just overtakes it in SEO.

Linking to the fandom wiki like you do on this site probably helps fandom more than you're hurting it. Just help wiki maintainers move to better platforms.

    Sorry! Fandom isn't allowing BreezeWiki to show pages right now.

Looks like it just got blocked :(

Because of my heavy adblocking and other extensions that make nasty sites look perfectly clean and usable, I often forget that other people don't see the same website that I do.

Mostly getting errors about BreezeWiki not being allowed to access Fandom, but the idea is sound and much needed.

Fandom and Fextralife are a blight on gaming.

I've been a hater of Wikia/Fandom for so long that it's been nice seeing people finally turn on them in a bigger way in the past few years. I've ran an independent wiki for a pretty long time, and it was amusing to watch the backlash grow over time, and see our humble little community get featured on Indie Wiki Buddy.

The very first wiki I remember garnering a lot of backlash was the Touhou Wiki, quite a long time ago. It was an amusing case because they decided to leave relatively soon after Wikia forced the ad-ridden theme on everyone, but Wikia decided they were too big to leave, banned the admins and appointed new ones. The community revolted and set the wiki on fire, eventually requiring admins to step in and roll back the vandalism.

Since then, they've just gone further and further mask-off regarding how they blatantly abuse their SEO position, extract money from user-generated content, and manipulate teenagers attracted to the perceived prestige of running "the" definitive wiki about some subject they're interested in. It's very depressing. I'm glad that wiki farms make it easy for people to run community wikis, but I'd rather everyone learn how to set up Mediawiki on crappy cPanel shared hosting again than have Fandom be the future. I think the company most responsible to kill them is Google, because their broken-ass search engine is the primary reason why Fandom works. I know that this is a hard problem to solve, but in my mind it's easy: start punishing large-scale SEO abusers like Pinterest and Fandom. It's five fucking years too late to start now, but that timer isn't resetting. Once you cut off their advantage over independent websites, and force each wiki to at least stand out on its own, it will definitely deal a fairly big blow to the machine they've built.

I'm sure it's been pointed out by others in the comments, but rather than BreezeWiki, you might want to consider Indie Wiki Buddy, which will redirect you to independently-ran wikis instead. (Or you could use both. Whatever floats your boat.)

https://getindie.wiki

Self-hosting breezewiki -- even on the same machine that you browse from -- gets neatly around the way fandom wikis block the breezewiki public nodes. I've got it self-hosted and now I never see that damn fandom interface.

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The Path of Exile community ran far away from Fandom. Everyone should.

Thanks for the shout out to Miraheze, a free wiki host with no ads. We really appreciate it.

We’re about to celebrate our tenth anniversary in a couple months. I hope many Fandom wikis can come join us by then.

I work for wiki.gg, if anyone edits a Fandom wiki that's considering forking and wants to know more, send me an email (in bio)

If I see a fandom wiki it’s an automatic won’t visit

Beautiful.

I noticed the layout breaking on some pages, e.g.: https://breezewiki.com/Battleheartlegacy/wiki/Necromancer - the table extends beyond the horizontal edge of the page, at least on mobile.

Still a more user friendly place than fandom/wikia and I am now going to use BreezeWiki instead.

Is there any easy way to make a local backup of a Fandom wiki? I have found some unmaintained scripts which might have worked at one point, but it seems like the only option on the table is to scrape and parse everything.

The extension I use to redirect fandom wikis also includes an option to go to various breeze wiki proxies, which is a convenient way to do that.

You should help create a startup that makes a Lisp chip and help resurrect Lisp Machines. They can help bring true power to AI via their symbolic AI, everything in the system being Lisp code, and thus extensible, and more.

A great idea in theory, but I would just prefer doing what a lot of wikis are doing now and just leave fandom, breeze seems to be getting pretty heavily rate limited for me anyways.

Fandom is one of those sites I want to like but just can't. How can the developers of that site be satisfied with their work?

Fandom sucks. Scraping and republishing their content sucks harder. Disgraziato.

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Doesn't seem to work with non-English wikis?

At least https://rpg.breezewiki.com/ru/wiki/ doesn't work.

I'm going to have to look at this. In the meantime I've banned fandom results from my search engine.

Awesome, you can also use it with LibRedirect (https://libredirect.github.io/)

I prefer not to contribute traffic to fandom pages at all, directly or indirectly.

fandom => spamdom.

When i try this I get:

> Sorry! Fandom isn't allowing BreezeWiki to show pages right now.

Personally I think it should be illegal for webshites to use any legal or technical means to block people from deshitifying their webshites.

As long as nothing happens to Memory Alpha

Racket is giving an error.