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"Can't" = "makes no effort at all, not even a mail or a phone call".

Be aware though - as soon as anyone ends up in El Salvador (or wherever), it apparently doesn't matter if any "accidents" were had. What's done, is done.

This is incredibly convenient if you want to trim the opposition a little.

Whoops!

It's not an accident if the government intentionally circumvents all checks that usually would apply to cases like this and denies them due process. It's also intentional that they send these people to a prison in a different country (and for most of them not the country they are originally from) with conditions that would certainly be illegal in the US itself.

This is also about more than just this single case. From the little we know so far it seems that being from Venezuela and having any kind of tattoo is sufficient to be targeted.

This is why due process is essential for everybody. The moment you deny it to one group, you can deny it to anyone by claiming they're in that one group.

Accidents like this are required in order to demonstrate the scale of the "will" behind the power.

This should be a un-ignorable reminder of the value of due process. Better a guilty person go free than an innocent person sent to their long, slow, undignified death.

That’s the most vicious part

> sent a Salvadorian immigrant to a notorious Salvadorian prison

>the man had protected immigration status in the U.S., specifically barring him from being sent back to that country for fear of persecution.

it's not an "accident" if you randomly round up people based on nothing, then exile them to a foreign slave prison, it was a deliberate series of steps to terrify these people and everyone else.

> ICE maintains that a confidential informant told the agency the man was a member of MS-13

Well this is horrifying.

My first thought seeing this headline: "Please don't tell me he got sent to CECOT."

> Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) admitted to mistakenly sending Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia to El Salvador’s notoriously brutal CECOT prison.

:O

If you haven't heard of CECOT, go watch one of the recent YouTube videos on it. I'm glad that El Salvador has taken control over gang activity but, man, CECOT is one of the last places on earth you want to end up.

The headline only tells half the story. This guy had previously been scheduled for deportation due to sufficient evidence that linked him to MS-13. It was an administrative error that he was deported to the wrong country. Here’s a link to the court case: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-...

Strange how tariffs and sanctions are suddenly not an option, especially because the US pays El Salvador to imprison the Venezuelan „gang members“

If the person was an actual US citizen, they wouldn’t be able to get them back? Now they were able to exchange an arms dealer for a pot smoking basketball player in Russia. Why can’t they do the same in Salvador?

> The Trump administration argues that because the man is no longer in U.S. custody, a U.S. court lacks jurisdiction to issue orders regarding his detention and release.

That's evil and stupid.

By that twisted logic, the President can ship all the gold in Fort Knox to a Russian bank under his own name, and US courts "won't have jurisdiction" to rule that it must be returned.

Trump admin looks closer and closer to nazi germany.

Of course, this is flagged by the reactionary contingent on this site.

See also: An 'Administrative Error' Sends a Maryland Father to a Salvadoran Prison (theatlantic.com)

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Better source: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/1/abrego-garci...

Implement Lex Talionis for gross misconduct in public office. Did an official, through gross negligence, cause irreparable harm to innocents? Mete the same harm upon them; then empathy may stop being a weakness.

/s, but I became less sure of it as I typed.

It doesn't make any sense that he can't be brought back. Even if he's an illegal immigrant, at least he should be released as conditions in El Salvador have improved for civilians since when he was last in it.

Of course they can get him back. If you've looked on Twitter at the account of the president of El Salvador, the guy is a lickspittle fanboy of Trump and Musk and is absolutely desperate to have their attention. If they tell him to jump he'll ask how high and thank them for the command.

I mean, he's running a slave prison for human trafficking victims charged with no crime and given no process, surrounded by such pathetic theatre it is banana republic levels of farce, so ultimately he should be captured by the ICC, and it will likely end up there.

What the government means is that they don't want to get him back.

The Trump administration wants summary execution of undesirables, but there's currently no political will for that. So they dump their dragnet detainees into a hole in another country and pretend it's not possible for them to come out anymore. That's why they won't deport to countries of origin or try to get the innocent ones back. They need to maintain the illusion of an irreversible process. It's sickening.

I would like to remind the people in the us that at some point they will come for you too.