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This... is actually pretty great to have. Very cool.

That said... It really just makes me bummed about the lack of good support for container and sandboxing technology on macOS. I know, totally different thing. But still, we'll probably never have a "native" Docker/Podman/etc. on macOS, and things like the Bazel or Nix sandbox are significantly less effective on macOS due to there just being less kernel APIs for isolating resources. e.g. There are no network namespaces. I get why, but it's surprising how limiting not having network namespaces is once you have used a platform that has an equivalent to this. For Nix it's really tricky since a lot of things need at least a working localhost inside the sandbox. I am sure increasing the surface area of XNU is not a serious consideration, for good reasons, but it's a bit of a shame.

I love Swift, but it has the only compiler that ever told me to rewrite my code because it cannot analyze it in a reasonable length of time.

Interesting! Does it run on macOS hosts only, or does it install any macOS inside the container?

> Container images are the standard way to package cloud software today.

Shame there's no macos native container system or way to make one (my understanding is the kernel isolation primitives are not there)

I dont love the idea of Apple eco system for server side development. I trust them to try make a great eco system for their own OSes based on their self interrest. I do not trust them to drive and maintain a server side eco system, because I don’t see how the effort is directly linked to making money.

That said, Swift and SwiftUI is super nice, so I know they know how to make great software for their OS-es. Almost. Once they fix XCode.

What’s the general sentiment on Swift?

It’s 11-years old and I don’t see it talked about much on HN (except for discussion on Apple libraries & bugs).

Do people like it as a language, and why?