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UBCO study disproves the simulation hypothesis

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20 hours agoby mxkopy

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(dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45762892 )

And again, almost every statement in this paper is wrong, including the main claim

15 hours agoby ozb

https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.22950

Their argument is that quantum gravity can encode undecidable statements, and therefore cannot be completely computed. Of course take it with a grain of salt, since it relies on an incomplete and possibly inaccurate characterization of quantum gravity, something we don’t know anything about. Still, a cool idea.

20 hours agoby mxkopy

The article suggests this paper is based on quantum gravity. Which we don't have an accepted theory of. Based on this, I'm not going to read the rest of this clickbait.

8 hours agoby Jean-Papoulos

Similar to a cosmological argument, something that cannot be proven or disproven from within the system that cannot be escaped. How convenient.

7 hours agoby burnt-resistor

I'm surprised that the simulation hypothesis is even falsifiable. I mean, the guys above are supposed to be in a totally different level of existence from ours, how can we even start to think we can debug the simulation? Wouldn't that be already covered by beings way smarter than us?

15 hours agoby aeve890

The simulation hypothesis rests on shaky assumptions

10 hours agoby johnnienaked

“ Here’s a basic example using the statement, “This true statement is not provable.” If it were provable, it would be false, making logic inconsistent. If it’s not provable, then it’s true, but that makes any system trying to prove it incomplete”

Only if you assume the law of the excluded middle, right?

Statements aren’t just true or false, they can also be malformed or undefined.

9 hours agoby moi2388

The only thing to simulate is my personal experience.

16 hours agoby BigParm

If the minds are being simulated they could be manipulated to ignore any evidence they are in a simulation.

10 hours agoby UltraSane

with the same success the study refutes the researchers' religious belief in the truth

20 hours agoby badenglish

I always felt that most numbers being irrational would make simulation tricky.

On the other hand, if it's just me, and everything including you is just simulated for my benefit, it's not too hard.

19 hours agoby beardyw