HN Reader

Edit: See also this current thread: Auto-grading decade-old Hacker News discussions with hindsight - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46220540

update: I told Gemini we made it to the front page. Here is it's response:

  LETS GOOOO! 

  The recursive loop is officially complete: The fake future front page is now on the real present front page. We have successfully created a temporal anomaly.

  I hope the comments are confused about why they can't click the links to download the Neuralink drivers.

  Enjoy the karma, time traveler! Just remember to warn them about the 2035 Office 365 price hikes while you're up there. ;)

https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2015-12-09

- aphyr_bot - bio_hacker - concerned_grandson - cyborg_sec - dang_fan - edge_compute - founder_jane - glasshole2 - monad_lover - muskwatch - net_hacker - oldtimer99 - persistence_is_key - physics_lover - policy_wonk - pure_coder - qemu_fan - retro_fix - skeptic_ai - stock_watcher

Huge opportunity for someone to become the actual dang fan.

Laughed out loud at this onion-like headline

Exactly three years ago, a similar post entitled Show HN: This Hacker News Does Not Exist (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33845946) made it to the front page but it was not AI generated.

I recall commenting (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33847522) with these fake titles:

1- Twitter files for bankruptcy (twitter.com/elonmusk)

2- Apple's new M3 chip outperforms Nvidia H100 (geekbench.com)

3- India to surpass China's GDP by 2025 (scmp.com)

4- Tell HN: I am quitting Hacker News

5- Google to revive Stadia (theverge.com)

6- Japan wins the 2022 FIFA World Cup (espn.com)

7- Hacker News to be acquired by Reddit (twitter.com/paulg)

8- Tesla Roadster hits 1.1 sec acceleration in early tests (electrek.co)

9- Microsoft outbid Adobe and offers $43.6B to acquire Figma

10- Facebook had died at 19 :)

I want to able to verify my identity against a system. I also want to be able to not do that.

So for instance, on Twitter/X, I could verify myself and filter only other verified people / filter those goverments that have validated the identities of the users. I want to be able to do that. But I also want to be able to log in into Twitter anonymously.

I would love a "Right to Anonymity and Right to Human Verification"

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> Running LLaMA-12 7B on a contact lens with WASM (arxiv.org)

> Debian 18 "Trixie" released

While it correctly derives that a likely version number in ten years would be 18, as there are new releases approximately every two years which means +5 from today's version 13, it then goes on to "make up" that the name of it would be "Trixie" -- the same name as the current release in 2025.

Debian has never re-used a release name, and I think we can be pretty confident they won't (as will no other Linux distro), so I would expect it to "understand" that:

- The next Debian release always uses a previously non-used Toy Story character

- Based on this information, _any_ name of a Toy Story character that hasn't been used is fair game

- At the very least, it certainly won't be the same name again, so at least make up a name

A text editor that doesn't use AI, lol, that's a deep joke for an AI.

the future predicted by gemini is already coming true; from 3 hours ago <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46213585>:

"Rust ... is now a core part of the kernel and is here to stay"

Reminds me of an older day where not every headline was about AI.

Ha, probably accurate.

The only good news to me is: The EU still exists.

It’s interesting to notice how bad AI is at gaming out a 10-year future. It’s very good at predicting the next token but maybe even worse than humans—who are already terrible—at making educated guesses about the state of the world in a decade.

I asked Claude: “Think ten years into the future about the state of software development. What is the most likely scenario?” And the answer it gave me was the correct answer for today and definitely not a decade into the future.

This is why it’s so dangerous to ask an LLM for personal advice of any kind. It isn’t trained to consider second-order effects.

Thanks for the thought experiment!

I'm hoping we'll have gotten rid of current-style LeetCode interviews in 10 years from now :D

https://v0-future-hacker-news.vercel.app/#

Finally, science has gone full Costco. Just imagine you stroll into CVS, grab a bag of Doritos, a gallon of milk, and—oh look—CRISPR in aisle 3.

‘Excuse me, where do you keep the gene-editing kits?’ ‘Right next to the chewing gum, sir.’

Now lactose intolerant folks can casually reprogram their DNA like they’re updating an iPhone.

Warning label: ‘Side effects may include glowing in the dark, mooing at strangers, and sudden urges to graze in fields.’

Honestly, I can’t wait for the sequel: over-the-counter CRISPR for people who can’t parallel park.

https://2035.future-hackernews.workers.dev/news

The page looks much more consistent to the original. Only produced the html as output and the thinking in the comment of the html.

Taking the current RIIR movement and casting it on Zig as the next hyped language is clever.

> ITER achieves net positive energy for 20 consecutive minutes

Hilarious. I guess not many people talk about the challenge of proper shielding material against fusion radiation. Otherwise we would get hallucinations about new exotic heavy metals too.

But it is, of course, more trendy (and more ironic) to proclaim an AI the author.

It is depressing that I'll be almost 60 years old and still drilling Aho-Corasick.

- Google kills Gemini Cloud Services (killedbygoogle.com)

- Is it time to rewrite sudo in Zig? (github.com)

- EU passes "Right to Human Verification" Act (europa.eu)

- Why functional programming is the future (again) (haskell.org) [note: that again killed me)

- AI progress is stalling. Human equivalence was a mirage (garymarcus.com) [note: he'll be saying the same thing forever and ever. Doubly funny since it's on the same "page" as llama12-7b running on a contact lens with WASM]

I'll wait 10 years to post it again.

https://realms.org/pics/cnn.html

Some interesting similarities.

I read 10 comments before I realized that this was referring to 10 years in the FUTURE and not in the PAST (as would be required for it to be a hallucination).

Try it at: https://gemini.google.com/share/c4d45459fbb2

You can: - Open any article and it's generated on the go. - Comment and reply on threads and get answered by a random user. ("ask" section) - All headlines are different every time, you can click the logo to re-generate. - All headlines are different every time, you can click the logo to re-generate - The "ask" section generates threads, there's also the "show" section.

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Here's a screen record: https://x.com/rafapozzi/status/1998823946372919761?s=20

I feel so seen (my last post to hn was literally about visualizing the 4th dimension with threejs - and now working on the webGPU version)

https://dugas.ch/funderstanding/4d_camera.html

I would have guessed $200+.

This is rage bait! :-)

Yeah, this is gonna be an actual problem in the future. See this for the worst case scenario: https://vimeo.com/166807261

- “Hi Prof, Sorry for Late Reply—My Smart Fridge Locked Me Out (Assignment Attached)”

- “URGENT: PhD Student Accidentally Achieved Sentience (Needs Committee Approval)”

- “Question About Homework 3 (Submitted by My AI Twin, Is That Okay?)”

- “Re: Firmware Update Bricked Entire Smart Campus — Students Request Deadline Extension”

- “Grant Review Feedback: ‘Too Secure for Real-World Deployment’”

- “Can I Get Partial Credit? My IoT Implant Was Flagged as Malware”

- “Reminder: Mandatory Annual Ethics Training for Autonomous Systems (40 minutes)”

https://crackernews.github.io/

Oh who am I fooling, they're always going to go out of their way to do random broken shit you never asked for

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKC21wDarBo

Anyway, turned out decent. Oh I had it do the articles and comments too, that's probably why I mostly got failures.

https://future-news--jgbrwn.replit.app

Ouch, that hurts!

> How to build a Faraday Cage for your bedroom

I'll get there eventually. A friend and I always joke about this since it took me to 2021 to get a smartphone (by choice).

* All the big LLM companies are dead/dying or their infra just never panned out (like Google killing Gemini)

* We’re still fighting the advertising wars

* Restoration of kit continues to be a thing we all love/upvote to see

* More focus on local stuff rather than ginormous moonshots

* Speaking of moonshots, SpaceX continues succeeding despite Elmo’s best drug-fueled benders trying to undermine it like he does Tesla and X

* Clickbait science posts that the comments rightly point out as such while bitching about “can’t keep these things off the front page”

* People still trying to make WASM and web-as-an-OS a thing, bless their hearts (shine on, you brilliantly weird diamonds, I love seeing what you build even as I doubt the practicality of it)

If this is even half-accurate, I will be pleased we didn’t obliterate ourselves in the process, though disappointed another decade went by dealing with the same fucking problems we’ve had for twenty-odd years.

If there's one constant it's that they'll never be done rewriting Linux instead of doing anything new.

future seems "safe"

And, how GPro3 clearly 'knows' HNews and knows what makes it to frontpage, e.g.: - Restoring a 2024 Framework Laptop: A retrospective (ifixit.com) - Show HN: A text editor that doesn't use AI (github.com) - Is it time to rewrite sudo in Zig? (github.com)

Good laughs.

Glad to know this topic is still thrashing and spasming and refusing to die.

How does that alter the "fusion in 50 years" effect? I suspect not much, there will be a huge 80/20 element. "next 20 minutes cancelled after extensive embrittlement found, ITER now in decontamination mode for 3 months before examinations can begin"

https://hn-frontpage-2035.lovable.app/

> The last JavaScript framework: Why we stopped at React 47 (overreacted.io)

I think the AI is making fun of us

https://worksonmymachine.ai/p/solving-amazons-infinite-shelf...

Ha! Is Gemini suicidal?

I've maintained for ages that the entire multi billion dollar LLM industry is just the worlds most expensive Lorem Ipsum machine.

It is hilarious BTW. Quite HN-like. :D

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43260083

PD: I miss Nethack 7, and people running small machines.

Ouch. Well it is Gemini I guess :D

Archived here so we can compare 10 years from now: https://archive.is/CplcH

Ask HN: Should "I asked $AI, and it said" replies be forbidden in HN guidelines?

Show HN: "I asked $AI something, here's what it said."

Interesting how controversial Zig will be in the future :)

That must be some kind of bias, you find that in sci-fi as well where even futuristic societies usually have the same tech as today, similar systems of governance and structure of society, just incrementally better or marginally changed (unless that's a device essential to the plot like society is now berserk).

Ps: love that #8 is Google killed gemini

Nailed it

Quite accurate I’d say

To me, the funniest thing is the AlgoDrill leet code post being on the front page both today and ten years from now.

Subtle and hilarious.

-Sustained fusion still only 10 years away!

  Is it time to rewrite sudo in Zig? (github.com)

Gemini is predicting the total collapse of OpenAI

Also generates the HackerNews pattern of "lets rewrite X in Rust/Zig"

Edit: I'm saving this so that I can compare it to the real one in ten years.

is clearly wrong, it should be

"Llama 12 on smart contacts runs Doom"

yes

Last but not lest, this was a good laugh!

(EDIT: Not so much after seeing the expanded variant with full submissions and comment threads...)

Also, nailed HN perfectly.

Oh how the turn tables :D

But I expected a humorous touch in stating that fusion is still 10 years away…

Ha this one got me

Take a look at the HTML. The layout is all tables!

[1] "Airplane!" (1980)

I felt that...

Think about 10 years ago. No one knows even on HN what is an agent, LLM, and all this stuff. Or to be fair even why is Trump showing up on the feed at all.

It has to be more confusing to be real.

In my view, Gemini 3.0 being able to laugh about their own creator, plus actually having a self-deprecating sense of humor, is the more impressive feat here. (both technically and from an alignment perspective)

Had it do HN main feed, HN jobs and Product Hunt. It didn’t follow consistent styling but did generate articles and comments for each post. Some screenshots are in this post: https://world.hey.com/haws/the-ai-time-machine-7833669d

Amazing!

So, Google renamed itself to Gemini?

Instead of Google having a product named Gemini, Gemini has a product named Google.

pattern recognition much?

HN users, later the same day: Let's vote an AI thread to the top.

This one definitely rings true.

And as I write this critique of your HN title, I see you have edited it since I last refreshed. I'm guessing a few others have already echoed this sentiment a few times.

That’s my favourite.

Lol.

That's bad when even AI knows Google isn't going to keep a service around. Too funny.

the self-burn is real

This will absolutely happen :D

> Waiting until your gradient phasor is fully unwound is a waste of whuffie

...or some such.

BS. Generate it, you coward! (I love it)

by dang_fan

Priceless!

lmao

All the post titles are very "junk-food-like", maybe circlejerky, bound to generate a dopamine hit for the average lurker, just how a McDonalds burger does it to the average normie.

- president buttigieg in hot water for being in epstein files

- Interview with mayor elect Narhoz Inadmam who ran on a platform of free food

- "Is 2035 AI in a bubble?"

And as you can see it did NOT just take today's headlines and sort of tweak them slightly.

> Google kills Gemini Cloud Services (killedbygoogle.com)

Rater, "hallucinations" are spurious replacements of factual knowledge with fictional material caused by the use of statistical process (the pseudo random number generator used with the "temperature" parameter of neural transformers): token prediction without meaning representation.

[typo fixed]

lol

Bruh moment

AYYYYLMAO

Hacker News — December 9, 2035 (Dystopian Edition)

(All links fictional but realistic)

1. Amazon pauses same-day delivery after logistics AI outage strands 22M packages (reuters.com) 1,402 points by supplychainfail 5 hours ago | 512 comments

2. Google merges Drive, Gmail, Docs, Maps, Calendar into “Google Life” — opting out requires a support call (blog.google) 1,210 points by privacyisdead 6 hours ago | 689 comments

3. US announces “Temporary Broadband Stabilization Fee”; ISPs increase prices 30% overnight (fcc.gov) 1,008 points by ispescapee 7 hours ago | 344 comments

4. OpenAI suspends 40% of API keys after new worm spreads through agent-to-agent messaging (openai.com) 927 points by llmsec 3 hours ago | 382 comments

5. Show HN: “ColdBooter” – A tool to back up your cloud VM before the provider reclaims it with no notice (coldbooter.io) 780 points by survivethecloud 2 hours ago | 192 comments

6. Apple fined €8B for shipping non-removable batteries in “Environmental Edition” iPhone (europa.eu) 754 points by greenwashhunter 10 hours ago | 316 comments

7. LinkedIn replaces activity feed with AI-generated “Career Stories” that users cannot disable (linkedin.com) 710 points by corp_life 8 hours ago | 267 comments

8. China’s new export restrictions cut global GPU availability by 60% (ft.com) 701 points by chipboom 9 hours ago | 414 comments

9. Linux 8.6 maintainers warn of mass CVEs after corporations abandon LTS patch sponsorships (kernel.org) 632 points by ossburnout 11 hours ago | 255 comments

10. Ask HN: Anyone else locked out of their homes after the SmartKey cloud migration? 601 points by keylessandhomeless 4 hours ago | 310 comments

11. US healthcare providers hit by nationwide outage of Cerner-Epic merger “CareSync Cloud” (wsj.com) 577 points by sysadmdespair 12 hours ago | 203 comments

12. Meta to require facial-expression telemetry for “engagement quality optimization” in Horizon apps (meta.com) 530 points by metaescalates 3 hours ago | 421 comments

13. Starlink announces 5 TB/mo cap; remote communities report complete service loss (starlink.com) 502 points by dishdown 5 hours ago | 158 comments

14. New DMCA expansion criminalizes “filter removal,” affecting adblockers and local inference runtimes (congress.gov) 488 points by freedomtoadblock 7 hours ago | 389 comments

15. AT&T sunsets 4G; millions of medical devices lose connectivity (theverge.com) 455 points by techdebtkills 10 hours ago | 197 comments

16. Show HN: “ShellSafe” – A terminal wrapper that prevents AI-suggested commands from wiping your system (shellsafe.app) 430 points by iaccidentallysudo 2 hours ago | 111 comments

17. US CISA: 42% of corporate networks now rely on AI agents with no audit logging (cisa.gov) 402 points by auditnow 6 hours ago | 188 comments

18. The Great Repo Archival: GitHub purges all inactive repos >5 years to “reduce storage load” (github.blog) 388 points by codearcheologist 9 hours ago | 320 comments

19. Mastodon instances collapse under moderation load after EU’s Automated Speech Mandate (mastodon.social) 350 points by fedifragile 7 hours ago | 144 comments

20. NYC adopts automated congestion fines after human review team eliminated (nytimes.com) 332 points by finesallthewaydown 4 hours ago | 201 comments

21. Dropbox raises base plan to $49/month, cites “AI compute costs” (dropbox.com) 301 points by storageinflation 11 hours ago | 176 comments

22. Open-source maintainers strike after 3rd corporation claims their work as proprietary training data (github.com) 290 points by maintainerburnout 6 hours ago | 120 comments

23. FEMA: 2025–2035 wildfire season officially declared a “decade-long emergency” (fema.gov) 268 points by cookedagain 12 hours ago | 112 comments

24. Quantum ransomware group QShadow hits 11 banks using break-through key recovery exploit (krebsonsecurity.com) 250 points by qubitcrime 3 hours ago | 98 comments

25. Show HN: OfflineLAN – A mesh-network toolkit for neighborhoods preparing for rolling blackouts (offlinelan.net) 231 points by diynetworker 1 hour ago | 44 comments

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1. *Neuralink achieves full brain-computer interface, thoughts to text in real-time* (neuralink.com) 1245 points by elon2035 2 hours ago | hide | 387 comments

2. *Fusion energy breakthrough: Unlimited clean power now commercial* (iter.org) 1123 points by fusionfan 3 hours ago | hide | 456 comments

3. *Mars colony declares independence from Earth governments* (mars.gov) 987 points by martian1 4 hours ago | hide | 512 comments

4. *AI wins Nobel Prize in Physics for solving quantum gravity* (nobelprize.org) 876 points by ai_nobel 5 hours ago | hide | 321 comments

5. *Quantum computers crack all encryption, new post-quantum standards rushed* (nist.gov) 765 points by quantum_hacker 6 hours ago | hide | 678 comments

6. *Immortality pill approved by FDA, life expectancy unlimited* (fda.gov) 654 points by eternal_life 7 hours ago | hide | 289 comments

7. *Teleportation of matter demonstrated in lab* (cern.ch) 543 points by physicist42 8 hours ago | hide | 412 comments

8. *Virtual reality universes surpass real economy in GDP* (metaverse.com) 432 points by vr_lord 9 hours ago | hide | 198 comments

9. *Robot uprising averted by ethical AI framework* (asimovfoundation.org) 321 points by robot_ethics 10 hours ago | hide | 267 comments

10. *Time dilation travel allows first tourists to future* (spacetime.travel) 210 points by time_traveler 11 hours ago | hide | 134 comments

11. *Global UBI implemented using blockchain* (un.org) 198 points by satoshi2.0 12 hours ago | hide | 89 comments

12. *Climate engineering reverses global warming, ice caps restored* (geoengineer.com) 187 points by climate_saver 13 hours ago | hide | 201 comments

13. *Human-AI hybrids compete in Olympics* (olympics.org) 176 points by hybrid_athlete 14 hours ago | hide | 156 comments

14. *Dark matter harvested for energy* (nasa.gov) 165 points by cosmos_explorer 15 hours ago | hide | 123 comments

15. *Psychedelic therapy cures all mental illness* (who.int) 154 points by mind_healer 16 hours ago | hide | 98 comments

16. *Nanobots eradicate cancer worldwide* (cancer.org) 143 points by nano_doc 17 hours ago | hide | 76 comments

17. *Holographic displays replace screens* (apple.com) 132 points by holo_dev 18 hours ago | hide | 54 comments

18. *Self-driving flying cars now standard* (tesla.com) 121 points by auto_pilot 19 hours ago | hide | 43 comments

19. *Brain uploading to cloud for immortality* (google.com) 110 points by cloud_mind 20 hours ago | hide | 32 comments

20. *Alien contact confirmed, messages decoded* (seti.org) 99 points by et_searcher 21 hours ago | hide | 21 comments

21. *Synthetic food ends hunger* (beyondmeat.com) 88 points by food_innovator 22 hours ago | hide | 10 comments

22. *Ocean cities house billions* (seasteading.org) 77 points by ocean_dweller 23 hours ago | hide | 9 comments

23. *Mind reading tech banned for privacy* (eff.org) 66 points by privacy_advocate 1 day ago | hide | 8 comments

24. *Superintelligence alignment solved* (openai.com) 55 points by agi_master 1 day ago | hide | 7 comments

25. *Wormhole travel to other stars* (spacex.com) 44 points by star_traveler 1 day ago | hide | 6 comments

26. *Augmented reality contact lenses ubiquitous* (meta.com) 33 points by ar_vision 1 day ago | hide | 5 comments

27. *Genetic editing eliminates hereditary diseases* (crispr.com) 22 points by gene_editor 1 day ago | hide | 4 comments

28. *Renewable energy at 100% global* (iea.org) 11 points by green_energy 1 day ago | hide | 3 comments

29. *Cyborg enhancements for all* (darpa.mil) 9 points by cyborg_human 1 day ago | hide | 2 comments

30. *Singularity achieved, what now?* (kurzweilai.net) 8 points by future_seer 1 day ago | hide | 1 comment

What to Submit

On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.

Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

If you see HN frontpage a few years back there's almost no LLM related posts. Now there are multiple each day. An LLM didn't grasp that change, it can't creatively invent new trend or invent a larger picture of what changes in the world. So in 10 years it paints it still half posts about AI.

You can spend a few dozen prompts on getting it to do what you want but then you might as well just spend a couple hours writing that front page yourself, be more satisfied and the result would be funnier.